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22nd-Oct-2009 01:53 am
Hmm, I think I'll do a fic where Blake is finally made to pay for all the evil things he did in the name of being good and the self-serving things he did.

And maybe one where Vila finally has to face the music for betraying everyone in Hostage and trying to dump Avon, Cally and Blake at Star One and Tarrant later, all just to save his own neck. I wonder if that went through Avon's mind in Orbit.

There are far too many fics where Avon is made to pay for his sins. You almost get the idea that he was the only one who did anything bad and the others were all his victims.

Well it's time to have a little parity. Just fair warning. If you don't feel like reading then don't. I'm going to write them anyway.
22nd-Oct-2009 11:03 am (UTC)
Well, I've always wondered why people think Vila is so "nice" when he's the one who suggests that they kill Avon in "Spacefall" based on sheer speculation that Avon is plotting against them.
22nd-Oct-2009 11:43 am (UTC)
Yes, that too. And Blake was quite dispicable in Spacefall, other than for the single act of conscience in the computer room. It was Spacefall that first made me think Blake was not really a hero and definitely not a good man, nor was he a good leader, or even someone who understood Avon.
22nd-Oct-2009 07:02 pm (UTC) - Vila's line
Funny, I saw that section recently on Youtube, which offers a few major episodes in 10 minute chunks, and perhaps because I was influenced by the later episodes and fan stories, I thought that Vila's line about killing Avon was just a throwaway line, since the others do not react at all to Vila's suggestion, as if Vila was speaking hyperbolically (hyperbole) but not for real.
22nd-Oct-2009 12:33 pm (UTC)
It is only in balance that truth can be found.
22nd-Oct-2009 12:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, and that is why I'm going to write these, there have been far too many skewed the other way.
22nd-Oct-2009 01:40 pm (UTC)
Good luck.
22nd-Oct-2009 01:44 pm (UTC)
Thanks. Maybe one of these days, I might be able to write the other, good side of Blake. I do think he was essentially a good, albeit a flawed man, just like Avon but my mission now is parity.
22nd-Oct-2009 08:07 pm (UTC)

Vila...betraying everyone in Hostage and trying to dump Avon, Cally and Blake at Star One and Tarrant later..

Wow, I didn't know Vila did that. I've forgotten all these instances.

I wonder if that went through Avon's mind in Orbit.

I loved your tear-down of Orbit in one of your stories. I was never bothered by Orbit, not because Avon found what Captain Kirk insisted on in one original Star Trek episode, "I want that third alternative."

I just figured Avon moving slowly, not keeping quiet i.e. giving his position away, not finding Vila in an empty shuttle (was it that big?), etc., just showed that Avon wasn't thinking straight, i.e. didn't have a mind that anything went through at that moment. He didn't even ask Orac for alternatives, such as landing and teleporting when Scorpio came in range, or threatening to use or even using the Tachyon funnel on Servalan in defence (the TF was a weapon, wasn't it?). The screenwriter wanted one effect only: either rotten Avon or failure, so the odds were stacked against him.
If this was a real person, I don't think Orbit would have gone that way.
22nd-Oct-2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
FWIW I did right a post-Hostage story (Blood, Threats, and Tears) in which the crew considered dumping him.

Avon still behaved like a bastard at times.
22nd-Oct-2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
Oh, yes, I don't disagree Avon behaved like a bastard at times, but I think Avon had more than enough provocation. He could have toned it down a bit.

But really, I think they were all bastards in the way they all treated each other. They were a ship full of dysfunctional people who did a lot of things to each other that really are hard to forgive. My beef is that 9/10 it is Avon who gets singled out as if he was the sole one who did it and the others were all innocent victims who never did anything even slightly rude to Avon.

What I like are stories that really reflect what actually happened in the series, that they all were bastards who treated each other very badly at times and at others, like Vila and Avon are capable of, very good too.
23rd-Oct-2009 02:13 am (UTC)
I saw that one but didn't read it because I actually like Vila and didn't want to read about the crew wanting to get rid of him :P

I will read it now though.

Edited at 2009-10-23 02:14 am (UTC)
23rd-Oct-2009 12:27 am (UTC)
As long as it is respectful "bashing" and still in character
Mind you in spite of wanting to leave, he still went back for Cally on Terminal.
23rd-Oct-2009 12:28 am (UTC)
Vila, that is.
He even hauled Tarrant out, embarrassing for Tarrant considering how much he bullied Vila.
23rd-Oct-2009 12:38 am (UTC)
Well, I don't know about respectful. I'm sure some don't see it as that. For me its just realistic and in character because most of my "bashing" scenes contain dialogue straight from the series or scenes or situations from the episodes. I For me, it's fair game if it's canon.
23rd-Oct-2009 12:46 am (UTC)
Well a view of a character is opinion not fact.
Dialogue quoted out of context does put different slants on things.
Your example of Vila's wish to get rid of Avon never appeared to me to be nothing more than Vila's reaction to tension as was never meant as a serious suggestion by him. The other characters certainly never gave it serious consideration so why should we.
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